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Reputation Farming: Darnassus – Exalted At Level 31

I will have more details about leveling my new Mage, Belsynis, in a future post. For right now I want to focus on a specific aspect of what I have been doing with that character, which is farming reputation with Darnassus for the sake of getting their mount as opposed to the boring (in my opinion) Human horses.

Fueling My Fire
After rolling my Mage I made an announcement in Twitter, “Playing around with a Human mage on #Durotan with @Fynralyl, trying to get Exalted with NElfs asap for cat mount. Honored at level 14 so far”.

I got a few responses to that, including the following:

  • @WoWDawgs, “@psynister won’t happen by level 20.” and “@psynister not possible. Not enough rep quests to do it by 20.”
  • @LordKaladar, “@psynister GL with that.. its like Darkspear.. once you leave the starting area.. there are no more Elf quest hubs :(“
  • @Faulsey, “@psynister It’s hard to get exalted with a faction by -40- nevermind 20. (Did Darny when my Drae Hunter got his first mount, at 40.)”

All those responses really managed to do was get me even more focused and determined to get it done. While I was pretty sure level 20 wasn’t going to happen, I was hoping for some time shortly after so that I wouldn’t have to stick with the boring horses that the Humans get by default.

I got to work on grinding the reputation after I hit level 10, and though I was flying through quests and building up rep pretty fast, it didn’t take me long to see that it was not going to happen nearly as fast as I had hoped. So, I put that out there on Twitter as well, “#WoW My mage is level 16 and is about 1k Rep over half-way through Honored. No way I’m hitting Exalted by level 20 unless I turn of exp.”

I only got one reply to that one though, @WoWDawgs, “@psynister heh heh heh.”

As I’ve said before, telling me that I can’t do something, or that it’s not possible, is the best kind of motivation you can give me. It’s not a matter of trying to prove people wrong, it’s about overcoming the limits around me.

Fueling My Frost
So, after the guys on Twitter told me how hard it was going to be, I decided it was time to put all the knowledge that I had built up from leveling my previous Mage to 80 to good use and started hitting the grinding wheel pretty hard.

When it comes to building reputation with the Faction Races you don’t have a whole lot of options. Basically, you quest and you turn in cloth, and that’s about where it ends. But cloth can only be turned in once per cloth type until you get up to Runecloth, and you can’t do that until around level 50. You can turn in Wool Cloth once at level 10 for some rep, and Silk Cloth at level 30 for some more rep, but otherwise your only option is questing.

I looked up quests on wowhead.com to try to find where to get reputation with Darnassus, but what I found was that almost every quest mentioning Darnassus rep was wrong either in that it gave a different amount of rep than the website claimed, or that it gave the rep with another faction all together. After about the eighth time I was burned on that deal I gave up on referencing quests and instead focused on the NPC’s that gave the quests.

Advice: The most reliable method I found in finding quests in other zones was to accept quests that either came from, or were turned in to, a Night Elf NPC.

So I knew that I had to focus solely on questing, and that’s what I did. While a Fire build hits harder, and an Arcane build is apparently viable now for leveling, I stuck with what I know works and what I’m most familiar with: Frost

You can take a look at Belsynis on the Armory with the following link if you’d like:
Belsynis (Alliance Main)

Reputation: Honored
Somewhere in my mid-teens, I forgot to note exactly when it happened (/fail), I managed to hit Honored with Darnassus.

When Belsynis hit level 10 I left the Human starting zones and went straight to the starting zone for the Night Elves and quested there as though I were a level 1 Night Elf. I did every quest in the starting area of Shadowglen and then moved on to the town of Dolonaar and did every quest there as well. After finishing those I moved on over to Darnassus and did every quest they had to offer me as well.

When you want to build reputation with a faction, hit their starting areas first and then progress through the entire zone. I don’t mention specific quests here because I literally did every single quest that I was able to find in the entire zone. I ran a path around the entire map after I thought I had done them all just to see if I could find any quests in some random, out of the way location that I had missed before. My thoughts proved to be true as I found no other quests that I had left undone.

My wife is currently leveling a Draenei character, and as she heard me mention that I had finished with the quests in the Night Elf zones she mentioned that there were several quests in the Draenei starting area that offered the reputation as well. This is where I did the search for quests on wowhead.com (mentioned above) that came back with disappointing results. Luckily, I did find quite a few quests that gave the reputation, but a lot of them were very small amounts. In the end, it was certainly worth the time and effort to do them. As with the Night Elf zone I went through every area on the map for the Draenei and accepted every quest I could find that came from or was turned in to a Night Elf NPC.

Doing this did slow down my progression in leveling because I was already higher level than most of the mobs that I faced. I did gain experience from all of the quests that I turned in, but that experience was enough to continue pushing me over the level of the mobs that I faced in most of the areas.

So I left the Human starting zone of Elwyn Forest at level 10, the Night Elf zone of Teldrassil at level 14, and the Draenei zones (Azuremyst and Bloodmyst Isles) at level 16.

Reputation: Revered
From there it was time to head to the next stop in the Night Elf quest lines and head over to Auberdine. Most of the quests in this zone reward Darnassus reputation, but not all of them. Following the same guideline here as I had in previous areas I took every quest that came from a Night Elf NPC or was turned in to one and did every one I could find.

It didn’t take me long to get up to level 20, but since I knew I still had a long way to go before I got my Darnassus mounts that I went ahead and bought all of the human horses (including the black one from Wetlands) so that I could quest faster.

In the end I did every quest, or quest chain, in the entire zone except for the ones given by the Gnome upstairs in the Auberdine Inn. I did his first quest, found that it gave Gnomer rep, and then left it at that for him.

The good thing about Auberdine is that it’s a fairly small zone with a whole lot of quests. The bad thing is, a lot of these quests require you to do a lot of running around back and forth. There also happens to be a couple of quests that send you into areas that are also part of even higher level quests from other zones that send you back to Auberdine. So you can be running around in an area full of level 16 mobs and then find yourself facing a level 29 mob out of the blue. So a word of advice if you are doing this with a low level toon, be careful around towers.

I manged to reach Revered in Auberdine, but I did not get very far into it before I ran out of quests. As with Teldrassil, I ran a full circuit around the map after finishing all of the quests to make sure I did not miss any. This time around I actually found 2 that I had missed, so it certainly paid off this time.

Next stop, Ashenvale.

Reputation: Exalted…Almost
Most of the quests offered in Ashenvale provide you with Darnassus reputation; not all of them, but most. A couple of those quests include running through the BFD instance in Northwest Ashenvale, and since my wife had a freshly transferred level 80 Paladin on the realm I just had her run me through it, though I did find a group for it the following day as well.

Ashenvale has a lot of quests that span the entire map, and the locations of their quests are overall pretty good though not great. I generally liked doing the quests here, but there were a few of them that just really bugged me. Quests that require an item to drop that has a horribly low drop rate, kill quests that require certain numbers of several different mobs that are all spawned randomly so that you have to do a full clear of the area five times to get the ones you need, etc.

Ashenvale is where the level of the mobs finally started meshing well with my own level and where experience really started picking up.

I only had a few accidental run-ins with Horde NPCs, but none of them were fatal. I did stumble onto a couple of rare spawns that gave me lessons on how to die quickly though, and chief among them was Prince Raze, a rare spawn demon that hits extremely hard and is well known for agroing my characters while I’m in the middle of fighting other mobs or just as I sit down to eat/drink. That rare spawn alone is responsible for over 20 deaths across my various characters, and because of that I now make a special effort to go and kill him any time I take a high level character into Ashenvale, even if my destination is nowhere near his spawn point. He killed Belsynis once because I didn’t see him when I attacked a mob near him, and a second time when I came back specifically to claim my revenge. The third time he went down.

But, I’m getting off topic here. Back to questing.

I kept a very close eye on my reputation throughout this entire process, but especially during the anxious grinding from Revered to Exalted, and the closer I got the closer I kept my eye on it.

After finishing every quest I could find in Ashenvale, and having already turned in both Wool and Silk cloth for rep, I still had not reached Exalted, though I was close. I hit the internet again searching for quests in other zones and managed to find a few spread out in various places, but they just didn’t weren’t enough. I found a few quests that would give me what I needed, but they all high minimum level requirements of 38 or higher and I was only level 31.

Reputation: 121 Reputation short
I looked everywhere I could think of and just couldn’t find anything at all. I was so close, and yet I was stuck. There I was sitting just 121 reputation away from being Exalted with Darnassus, and I had no other resources that I could tap for it without gaining several more levels. I spent a couple more hours in the game running around in other zones trying to find another quest and still found nothing. It was about 4 a.m. then and I had said four hours earlier that I was going to stay awake until I reached my goal. But while my mind loves the game, my body couldn’t care less and it was done. So, I called it a night with 121 Reputation left to go.

The next “morning”, I got on and it hit me. I had run full around the entire map looking for quests in all of the previous zones but I hadn’t bothered doing so with Ashenvale. I knew though that I had completed every quests around there so I wasn’t very hopeful. I ran and I ran. Nothing, nothing, nothing. I let out a big, heavy sign of frustration and disappointment as I pulled up my map for a vain search for hope.

As a long time Horde player the first thing that always draws my eye when I look at the Ashenvale map is the flight path there on the coast at Zoram Strand. My eyes found it this time too, and suddenly memories came back to me. Memories of killing a stupid PvP flagged NPC Night Elf that sits beside a fire near the Horde flight path. A dinky little level 14 nobody that I killed every time I saw him simply because he was Alliance. I had avoided the area on Belsynis because I knew that the Horde camp was there, but I had always wondered what his purpose was as my Horde characters killed him.

So, I jumped on my black horse and went straight for him down the quickest path I knew. Sure enough, just as he came within range on my map I saw that he held a quest. I accepted, ran a little ways north to get the statue he wanted and then rushed right back to him. I handed him the statue that was just lying there on the beach with a single naga watching over it and my computer froze…

Bel_Exalt_Darn

But it only froze for the half second that it takes for my MultiShot addon to take a screenshot when I get an achievement, Somebody Likes Me. The quest gave me 9 silver coins, 120 experience and 165 Reputation with Darnassus. I reached Exalted: Darnassus at level 31 and I went ahead and finished off that little Night Elf’s quest line just to return the favor.

The only thing left to do was to /cast Teleport: Darnassus and purchase all four of the mounts that were available to me. I keep the black horse on one of my action bars simply because he performed his duty well in helping me get all of those quests done, but the White Striped and Black Striped Frostsaber mounts are the only ones that I ride now.

The white one is my favorite:
Bel_Cat_Mount

 
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Posted by on September 8, 2009 in Guide, Reputation

 

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Reputation Farming: Cenarion Circle and Sporeggar

Over the weekend I decided that, once again, I wanted to change up Lexington’s (BElf Paladin 74) professions. With his enchanting quite close to being maxed, I had no desire to drop it from how much it costs to get it leveled up, nor for the time I spent farming various enchanting recipes around the world. But his herbalism was not doing much for me.

So I dropped Herbalism and replaced it with Tailoring. I know what you’re thinking here, “Tailoring!? On a Paladin!?!?!?” Yeah, you heard me. My plate-wearing, mob-pwning, king of AoE grinding likes to knit. You got a problem with that? Huh? HUH!? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Why Tailoring?
Tailoring isn’t generally associated with Paladins, though I do know at least one other that does it, but you have to remember that I’m not big on end game material, so I don’t really care about getting the most out of whatever profession I choose to take. I take professions based on what I want to do with them. I already have a tailor in this server, but he’s only level 20 and so his profession is currently level-maxed at 225 for another 15 levels.

The main reason why I chose Tailoring was for Herbalism and Enchanting bags, with a side benefit of making my own regular bags for my various alts and, of course, the members of our Twitter-guild, MOTiE.

Most regular bags can be purchased for a fairly low price on the Auction House, with even the 20-slot Frostweave bags selling for around 100g (68-90g on my server). Even the majority of the profession bags sell for less than that, with a few exceptions here and there and one very notable exception: herbalism.

The 32-slot herb bag sells for 800-1,000g on my server, and since I still have 2 more characters who have herbalism as one of their professions, bag space is always a problem for them because I don’t want to spend that much gold on a bag. Even the 28-slot herb bag sells for 225-275g on my server, and that too is far more than I want to pay for a bag. When I can buy regular 20-slot bags that can hold anything at all for 1/3 of the price, I hate to pay that much for only 8 extra slots and have all of them forced to carry only herbs.

There’s Gold In Them There Bags
So, on the one side I am now able to make my own herb bags (20, 24, or 28 slots right now) instead of spending large amounts of gold, and on the other there is quite a bit of gold to be made if I decide to sell the herb bags myself. Enchanting bags do not sell as high as herb bags do, and while having the large bags would save me some room I am able to get by with the 20-slot enchanting bags purchased from vendors in Hellfire Peninsula.

There are two reasons, as far as I can figure, why these herb bags cost so much. First, none of these bag patterns can simply be picked up at your trainer, none of them are sold at regular vendors, none of them drop off of mobs, and none can be sold on the Auction House. There is only one way to get the patterns to make these bags, and that is by grinding for Reputation.

Here are some tables to show the specifics of the different bag types. Herb Bag values are based on what I see on my server. Enchanting bags are based on what I see on wowhead.com since I never see them for sale on my server’s AH. I compared the prices of the two types of bags on wowhead and they come out pretty close, with herb bags about 20% more expensive, so values might be comparable.

You can see from the Reputation columns that all but one Enchanting Bag pattern can be bought from regular vendors without required reputation, while all Herbalism Bag patterns require reputation.

Herb Bags
NAME TAILORING SLOTS PATTERN COST AVG VALUE REPUTATION
Emerald Bag 435 32 5g 900g Kalu’ak – Revered
Mychah’s Botanical Bag 375 28 25 Glowcaps 275g Sporeggar – Revered
Satchel of Cenarius 300 24 5g 99g Cenarion Circle – Revered
Cenarion Herb Bag 275 20 2g 40g Cenarion Circle – Friendly
Herb Pouch N/A 12 95s for bag, no pattern 2g N/A



ENCHANTING BAGS
NAME TAILORING SLOTS PATTERN COST AVG VALUE REPUTATION
Mysterious Bag 440 32 5g ≈400g Wyrmrest Accord – Revered
Spellfire Bag 375 28 6g ≈375g None
Big Bag of Enchantment 300 24 1.25g ≈66g None
Enchanted Runecloth Bag 275 20 2g ≈20g None
Enchanter’s Satchel N/A 20 14g ≈20g N/A
Enchanted Mageweave Pouch 225 16 1g ≈20g None




Reputation Farming: Cenarion Circle
Cenarion Circle reputation is not too hard to come by. It might take you some time because the reputation rewards are not as high as some others, but there are so many mobs running around that you get it from that it keeps you engaged through most of the process.

There are several ways to get the reputation, but all of them basically come down to grinding mobs. I did all of my grinding with my Paladin’s Prot/Ret spec (he’s dual spec Prot-Ret/Prot-Holy right now), but I was not able to do a lot of AoE grinding here because many of the mobs are spell casters and because of that are harder to gather into groups for AoE. If I had a Ret spec available to me at the time, I probably would have gone ahead and switched to it just because it would have been faster. Overall though, it was not too bad.

Almost all of the Twilight Cultist mobs in Silithus will give you 10 Reputation when you kill them, and those cultists also drop the items that you need in order to build your reputation. There are several different types of Twilight Cultist mobs, but all of them are humanoids and all of them have “Twilight” in their name. If its name has Twilight in it, kill it.

According to my research online, you can purchase all of the items you need from the Auction House. You cannot be sure that the items will be available though, nor do you have any control over the prices. If the items are cheap, and you would like to go that route, then by all means do it. Personally, I enjoyed grinding for the items and the rep myself. And since killing the mobs that drop the items gives you reputation by itself, you will probably do better this way regardless.

Cenarion Circle Reputation Items
ITEM # REQUIRED REPUTATION REPEATABLE?
Encrypted Twilight Texts 10 500 Yes
Abyssal Crests 3 500 Yes
Twilight Cultist Cowl See below 0 N/A
Twilight Cultist Mantle See below 0 N/A
Twilight Cultist Robe See below 0 N/A




The Twilight Cultist Cowl/Mantle/Robe are all required to obtain the Abyssal Crests. By equipping each of these three items you can activate stones at the different Twilight Camps that will summon mobs for you to fight. Those mobs will drop the Abyssal Crests, as well as various other items (mostly trash), including the occasional Encrypted Twilight Text.

Each time you use the Cowl/Mantle/Robe to summon the mobs though, they are destroyed. When the mobs are summoned, you have a few seconds before they actually agro you and attack. Be sure to re-equip the items that you took off before these fights begin.

You can find all of the Cultist gear at the three camps around the map (see the map for Twilight Lord Everun below), but there is a fourth camp that’s in the north/north-east corner which has a cave entrance as well. Inside that cave is the only place that you can find a type of cultist called Twilight Flamereavers, which have some of the best potential (i.e. low % chance) drops of all the mobs, and they too drop the texts and occasional cowl/mantle/robe. I mention the Flamereavers in particular because they are the only mob that you can grind for reputation after you reach Revered reputation. So if you want to continue to grind rep all the way to Exalted, then that is where you should focus. The Flamereavers are also the best mobs to target for AoE grinding.

The camp near where the Flamereavers are found is also the best location I found for farming the Cowl/Mantle/Robe, though you can find all of these items at each camp. Apparently everyone has different luck with different items, in different locations when farming here, so just keep moving around from camp to camp as needed.

In addition to getting reputation for turning in the Crests though, you also receive a Bag of Spoils which contains all sorts of little goodies for you. Some of which sale rather well on the Auction House.

The Encrypted Texts can drop from all of the Twilight Cultists, so while you are gaining reputation just from killing them, you also have a chance to pick up the texts to get more reputation. The best source of Encrypted Texts though is a special mob called the Twilight Prophet, who drops 7-10 of the texts at a time instead of just 1 like all of the others. The prophets roam around the map and have fairly slow respawn rates, so while you should keep an eye out for them, don’t plan on farming only the prophets. The prophet is always escorted by two melee-mobs as well.

Here is a map of the Twilight Prophet’s patrol paths, courtesy of wowhead.com:

There is also a Rare spawn that wanders around the various Cultist camps named Twilight Lord Everun who has a chance to drop a few cards for various decks, and also an epic two handed axe called Brain Hacker, which he dropped for me the second time I killed him. I am not sure offhand what his respawn time is, but during the time it took me to grind the reputation I needed I killed him 3 times.

Here is a map of where Twilight Lord Everun happens to spawn, and since he patrols all three of the camps, it also shows you the location of the camps for you to farm them.

I did not keep track of how many mobs I had to kill, how many texts or crests I turned in, or how many of the various other quests in the zone that I completed along with the rest, but all in all it took me 3-4 hours to grind from Neutral to Revered. There are other rewards I could get for continuing to grind rep higher, but none of them are ones that I would particularly use. In some cases there are tabards, vanity pets, or even mounts. Overall the mounts are the only ones that appeal to me at all, but they are also quite the gold sink, and gold is one resource that I don’t bother farming very often though I probably should. So rather than becoming exalted with everyone, I simple reach the level I need for the item(s) I want and then hit the road.

See Cenarion Circle Reputation for more details.

Reputation Farming: Sporeggar
Farming reputation in Sporeggar is easy, but even more time consuming than Cenarion Circle. I had already farmed Sporeggar rep with my Paladin several weeks ago in order to get the Petrified Lichen Guard shield for my AoE grinding, so I did not have to start this one from scratch. Instead, I just had to bump it up to Revered in order to get the 28-slot herb bag.

Farming rep with Sporeggar is pretty easy when you start out because there are so many mobs that give you rep for killing them, and so many items that can be turned in for rep. As you move up the ranks though, the number of sources dwindles a lot. At the Honored stage, where I started this time, there is only one mob that gives you reputation (15 rep each), but they are so few and so spread apart that they aren’t really worth the grind.

However, there are two very solid sources of reputation at this level, one from farming and the other from grinding.

To grind for rep, you want to accept the repeatable quest called Now That We’re Friends…, which has you kill 18 Nagas, 12 of which are melee, and 6 casters. The mobs are north and slightly-east of your quest giver and they do not take long to grind. Turning in the quest grants you 750 Reputation and can be repeated as often as you like. The drops from these mobs are not that great, and they are occasionally annoying to fight with the mobs calling adds and fleeing when their health is low and so forth, but it’s not a big deal.

Map

To farm for rep, you need to head to the Underbog instance in the north-central portion of the map. The target of your farming is Sanguine Hibiscus, which can be picked up in the instance, or dropped from the mobs inside. This “herb” is turned in for the Bring Me A Shrubbery! quest, that rewards 750 Reputation for every 5x Sanguine Hibiscus you turn in. The fastest, and easiest way to get it is to just clear out all of the mobs in the area around where you enter and just roam around picking it up as it respawns. Most of it is found in that area anyway, and the respawn timer on them isn’t all that long (though I didn’t think to time it).

The item looks similar to a red herb that has a bit of a glow to it. If you have Herbalism then it will show up on your map, but you do not have to be an herbalist to pick them. You can also buy these off of the auction house if you don’t want to spend the time farming or doing the repeat grinding quest.

The first time I went into Underbog I did a solo full clear of the instance because I picked up a couple of quests to come inside as well, and wanted to see what mats I could get from disenchanting the boss drops. I was not overly impressed with that though, so I just stuck to farming the herbs near the entrance the other few times I came. I killed all of the mobs in the initial area before having to go up to the ramp, farmed all of the herb I could find, ran up and killed the first boss, and then ran back down to farm the herb again. I then ran back up to the first boss’s area and back down for a final check of respawned herbs, and then left the instance to do another 1-2 runs of Now That We’re Friends… for more rep. Then back to Underbog, back to the grind quest twice, back to Underbog, etc.

I spent about 2 hours farming all of the reputation I needed from Sporeggar to get the pattern for the 28-slot herb bag, though again, I did not start at Neutral this time since I had already farmed rep previously.

Also, take note of the fact that you do not use gold to purchase any of the reputation items from Sporeggar rep. Everything is paid for with Glowcaps. The bag itself takes 25 glowcaps, so make sure you farm glowcaps from the Zangarmarsh zone as well. You can find them all over the place. I know that before 3.1 came out you could track Glowcaps with Herbalism, but I believe that was changed in 3.1. Regardless, it’s not that hard to find them, and they are in reasonably high supply.

See Sporeggar Reputation for more details.

 
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Posted by on July 23, 2009 in Guide, Reputation

 

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